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RT-AC87U The Ultimate Router 4×4 MU-MIMO – CES 2014

For those of you out there interested in the fastest wireless router ASUS’ division is going to have you covered. Currently the go to router for ultra fast 802.11AC performance is the RT-AC68U. The RT-AC68U is a 3×3 router that offers real-wold throughput that is significantly faster than 10/100 wired ethernet while offering truly impressive concurrent performance and extensive range. For those of you that have been waiting for the throughput increase and latency reduction to be enough for great gaming, streaming and wireless backups or transfers the wait is over. Enter in the router to rule them all and take on the mantle of the best wireless router on the market.

The RT-AC87U is still under design and development but we are already aware of some of the new features of this new router. It features a next generation wave 2 802.11AC chipset. The AC87U is powered by Quantenna’s latest and highest performing 4×4 MU-MIMO chipset. in addition to being the first 4×4 802.11AC chipset it also supports advanced beam forming to further improve on range and connectivity with beam forming supported wireless adapters. While the hardware is important the firmware is equally important. The RT-AC87U will continue the trend of featuring tuned firmware and an optimized radio design that will allow the RT-AC87U to be the best WI-FI – wireless router ASUS has ever released. Users looking for robust concurrent connectivity whether it be WAN, LAN, WI-FI or USB or all them will realize the value in the performance and functionality afforded by the AC87U. Built from the ground up for users looking for the absolute best in range, throughput and overall performance especially concurrent performance will find that the AC87U checks off all the right boxes and enables a level of wireless performance that mirrors hard line connectivity. In addition users looking for NAS type functionality will enjoy improvements in performance to USB speeds as well.

Connected enthusiasts with a multitude of WI-FI devices looking to maintain fast but stable connectivity will truly appreciate the performance they can experience on the latest dual band and 802.11AC enabled smartphones, tablets, laptops, HDTV’s, consoles or PC’s. Networking enthusiasts that realize the needs of extensive whole home device connectivity can now keep all their devices connected seamlessly and easily and with confidence in the range and throughput created by the RT-AC87U. To top it off users will have a great deal of functionality, flexibility available via the intuitive controls offered by the ASUS WRT web based interface allowing for scheduling, prioritization, monitoring and much more.

In addition to offering outstanding performance the AC87U will introduce extensive new improvements to the ASUS WRT firmware. For users looking for new features and functionality from ASUS and its Ai Cloud software as well as ASUS WRT firmware stay tuned. Considerable time and effort has and continues to be put into the improvement and enhancement to the firmware’s functionality and feature set. Users who appreciate the application free nature of ASUS firmware will continue to be impressed at the ability to setup, log in, control and do much more via the simplicity of a web based interface.

Below you can check out some of the pictures of the prototype of the RT-AC87U. Stay tuned to PCDIY for more information on ASUS line of networking products.

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344 Responses to "RT-AC87U The Ultimate Router 4×4 MU-MIMO – CES 2014"

  1. ronnie
    ronnie 11 months ago .Reply

    hi nice when will it be available i was gonna buy the ASUS RT-AC68U I MIGHT JUST WAIT THOUGH…

    • JJ
      JJ 10 months ago .Reply

      We are currently still in the design and development stage. At this time we do not have a release date.

  2. John
    John 10 months ago .Reply

    80MHz or 160MHz ?

  3. Evan Terrell
    Evan Terrell 10 months ago .Reply

    JJ, I’m in the market to replace my Time Capsule with a new router – and this is the one I’d get. PLEASE tell me it’s coming soon! :D

    • JJ
      JJ 10 months ago .Reply

      We are currently still in the design and development stage. If you need a high performance router now I think both the AC66U and AC68U would be great choice. Additionally our recent WRT firmware updates implemented support for Time Machine so you already good to go. When looking at performance and features both of these routers will already provide superior performance compared to the current AirPort routers from APPLE. The upcoming AC87U is really targeted at users who readily leveraging 802.11AC in multiple systems and looking for absolute highest performance.

      • ferry
        ferry 8 months ago .Reply

        JJ, I have chosen the AC66U, but support of DFS is not available till now.

  4. Tom
    Tom 10 months ago .Reply

    JJ, I’ve heard that the USB 3.0 port can affect the wireless signal in the AC68U model. Does future AC68U or AC87U provide a shield for the USB port.

    • JJ
      JJ 10 months ago .Reply

      It is not a question of shielding this type of assumption is incorrect and goes more so to the overall SOC design. We offer an option within the WRT firmware for users who may experience the need to adjust this depending on usage and or environment. As to USB 3.0 performance it will be even better on the 87U than any current solution but as the SOC is shared it will always impact performance. This is also the case on PCs in general but the processor speed is fast enough that overall there is similar performance. With that noted you can look at entry platforms like those based on E series APUs and the USB 3.0 performance is lower than on an Intel chipset ( using the same PCIe link and USB 3.0 controller ). Hope this clarifies your inquiry.

      • Tom
        Tom 10 months ago .Reply

        JJ, Thanks for the response. Can you please talk about what’s the antenna gains (dbi) for this model and the AC68?

        • JJ
          JJ 10 months ago .Reply

          Cannot comment on the 87U as the design and development is still in confidential stages. As such stay tuned to PCDIY for more information.

  5. ronnie
    ronnie 10 months ago .Reply

    hi i would like to see wall mounting options maybe hardware to also mount this to the wall is this possible JJ? Im a big fan of asus routers, i currently own the AC68U my desk space is limited that is where the wall option would come in handy.

  6. dANNY
    dANNY 10 months ago .Reply

    WALL MOUNTABLE!!!!!!!

  7. idprism
    idprism 10 months ago .Reply

    when the 66u was pre-release i asked about 4×4 and was told there were no plans. im really happy to see 4×4 finally coming. i am actually in the market right now, so its a shame i have to either purchase another product or grind my teeth while i wait for this 4×4. seeing as the spec for ac supports 8 streams, i thought 4×4 would have made it to the 1st gen devices (but i was wrong). thanks again for making something capable of more fully using the ac spec.

    • JJ
      JJ 10 months ago .Reply

      Glad to read you are excited about the design and development of the upcoming AC87U. Stay tuned for more information.

      • dw8928
        dw8928 10 months ago .Reply

        Will there be a significant improvement in VOIP quality with this device. I know little about networking subtleties, but I am trying to get away from landline or even ip phones and always use my computer as a phone. Will this device help in that regard?

        • JJ
          JJ 10 months ago .Reply

          It depends on how you connect for your VOIP calls wired or wireless? Do you use an application on a PC or VOIP phone service? Overall if you current have a more basic router with lower performance in regards to throughput then yes you could see a benefit but these could be true with even current generation asus high performance routers. We are looking at incorporating more specialized packet priority optimization with the router for specific services. In this respect this could also considerably help VOIP. Stay tuned for more information.

  8. Sal
    Sal 10 months ago .Reply

    80 or 160 MHZ? on all channels? or some?

  9. WY
    WY 10 months ago .Reply

    Is there a option to wall mountable, I missed it on rt-ac68u.

  10. ac@ac.ca
    ac@ac.ca 10 months ago .Reply

    Are you still designing?

    Looking for a device that can do:

    1) 4 or more 1 GBit LAN
    atleast 1x LAN port can be used as DEFAULT *WAN*

    2) WAN can FAIL-OVER to WLAN connection (and use WLAN as sole WAN if wired-L/WAN port not connected)

    purpose: if wired modem goes out, I want immediate redundant connection (eg. from public accesspoint or backup agreed with eg. neighbour)

    3) 3x External coax antenna port, shipped with high gain antennas. The antennas should be possible to unscrew and add a cable to them move to a better location without moving the device – antenna location and positioning is everything when it comes to speed in my experience, so they should not be fixed to device.

    4) Work selectably as bridge (no nat/firewall), repeater (add nat), AP.
    5) Have fail-over from wired to wireless WAN work also in non-NAT’d bridge mode. In this scenario it is acceptable if the wired modem fails, the DHCP changes over to the another bridged network, resulting in need for clients to re-acquire IP from DHCP.

    I run my home network in Bridge, no-NAT only using wireless repeater, and want redundancy and higher performance.

    • JJ
      JJ 10 months ago .Reply

      Thanks for the feedback. We strive to bring innovative and performance oriented designs to the market.Keep in mnnd for the antenna there are amplification and signal loss considerations among other factors. As such there are varying degree of complex design considerations to keep in mind when we are developing the housing and how the antennas work as well as connect.

      As for multiple operating modes this has already become pretty consistent in our routers through the ASUS WRT firmwar ( having the ability to select router, bridge, repeater mode of operation ).

  11. Peter
    Peter 10 months ago .Reply

    What is the target release date ?
    Thanks

  12. malik
    malik 10 months ago .Reply

    Hello JJ

    I am in the market also as some have stated. I am looking at the RT-68U and debating if I should hold over. If this is still in development could you implement a feature for two pubilc IP DHCP set-ups with individual bandwidth management? I currently have to run two routers to manage this. So all that would be needed wouuld be for the RT-87 to take in the cable from the modem and split up the two IPs coming through and set up individual private DHCP networks with them.

    • JJ
      JJ 10 months ago .Reply

      Interesting sound similar to a dual WAN setup but I am not sure if what you are asking for is possible unless you have two lines as your you only have 1 ip. I can say we are working on some interesting functionality with this type of admin management capability so stay tuned for more information.

  13. Sanchu Varkey
    Sanchu Varkey 10 months ago .Reply

    Hello JJ,
    Why the high end routers does not have a build in modem for ADSL and VDSl connections ? Any particular reason for that

    • JJ
      JJ 10 months ago .Reply

      In most situations high end enthusiasts have their own high end modems additionally it minimizes having the router from being limited to one type of service ( FIOS, CABLE, DSL etc )

  14. Mike
    Mike 9 months ago .Reply

    Please have them add an active cooler into it. My AC66 gets so hot it feels like I can cook an egg on it. I use a notebook cooler on it 24/7 and it keeps the temperature down.

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      Thanks for your feedback. Active coolers are complicate in multiple respects we generally prefer passive heatsink solutions but as always run care thermal assessment to ensure reliability. Your experience sounds out of the norm. You may want to consider RMAing your router as the need to have a active cooler for it to operate correctly is not normal.

  15. RAW
    RAW 9 months ago .Reply

    Would an eSATAp connector provide similar speed to USB 3.0, but without the degradation in wireless capability that seems to come with USB 3.0? If so, I would use such a connector instead of USB 3.0 for a LAN hard drive. Does the USB 3.0 have to be in use to degrade the wireless, or does it just have to exist?

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      No sure what your question is asking? eSATA cannot be used for any other device outside of storage. For USB 3.0 we have no had issues with it degrading USB 3.0 performance if anything for higher performing 802.11AC solutions it is one of the only options to enabling ultra high speed external wireless adapters.

  16. Sean
    Sean 9 months ago .Reply

    Hey JJ
    Will you be releasing a USB-Dongle that can support these speeds as well or a mPCIE card for your Maximus boards as currently there are no USB/mPCIE options that can even cater for your AC68U

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      Currently no, there is no reference PCB design for 3×3 based AC solutions. The only one on the market ( the PCE AC68 ) had to be designed internally by us. It was complex and time consuming process. With that we are evaluating some options for higher performing external USB 3.0 3×3 solutions. At this time though there is no defined ETA.

  17. Cliff
    Cliff 9 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ, I am wondering if the possibility for a built-in VPN client will ever be included in the firmware. The processors are getting fast enough for OpenVPN, but as long as I get my american netflix in Canada, I would be happy. (PPTP, L2TP, etc) Are there any plans for this without having to go to custom firmware?

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      Our current WRT firmware already includes OpenVPN support along with numerous other VPN options. As always though we continue to look to the community and our users for feedback on how we can improve the features and functionality of our routers.

  18. Pablo
    Pablo 9 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ! Awesome product. I would like to test different parameters (I’m a wireless researcher), how flexible will be this new model? I know hacking it maybe doesn’t good, but it’s for the sake of testing new schemae. This question is related to the flexibility, which wireless driver will it support? Any open source driver? Thanks a lot for your time.

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      The unit is still under design and development we will be releasing more information as we get closer to the release of the 87U. Stay tuned for more information.

  19. idprism
    idprism 9 months ago .Reply

    i have recently been concerned at the security hole that is caused by having wps available. wps allows amateur hackers to gain access to networks very easily. i have noticed that some available bridge configurations on other devices require wps to be active. can i be sure that wps will not be required for bridging and will either be completely off (not included in packets) when turned off or not even included as an option on the 87u?

    • idprism
      idprism 8 months ago .Reply

      relevant article on wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup

      so, i hope that WPS is not present. if removing it is not possible (which is silly given the security risk it represents), can we be guaranteed that WPS fields will not be in the wireless packets when it is “turned off”, and that it will not be required for bridging?

  20. Robert L. Whittington
    Robert L. Whittington 9 months ago .Reply

    sweet! Really appreciate your efforts in pushing useful and practical technology advances to the masses. Thank you!

    Why not have a really great consumer contest / giveaway as part of the advertising campaign for this new product???

  21. Llyod Haynes
    Llyod Haynes 9 months ago .Reply

    My Lemonheads are sour, does that improve the speed of the router or distance? If not, I guess I’ll switch back to Hot Tamales :(

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      Good question we may need to revise our testing criteria to include this important variable.JK

  22. Sanchu Varkey
    Sanchu Varkey 9 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ,
    Is it possible to connect a USB MODEM as an input to this router and share the internet ? Does this new router (87U) support this ?

  23. Ken
    Ken 9 months ago .Reply

    Will this router support GRE,IPSec tunnels or anything besides L2TP? Also, will real routing protocols be available etc:OSPF,v2,v3?

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      Any specification support cannot be commented at this time due to it still being under design and development. Additionally we are currently developing a new version of ASUS WRT outside of the current released we build upon. This new version will feature a significant number of feature enhancements so stay tuned.

  24. Jack Shen
    Jack Shen 9 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ, could I request you guys to look into having your new routers to be able to lie on the table and stand up (like how you designed your AC66U) At this point, I love everything about your lineup of routers but dislike the fact that they are so huge while standing up. Thanks for your time

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      Thanks for the feedback. Part of the design difference has been in evaluating how we can more consistently yield superior performance. Every environment has multiple factors that can influence all aspects of wireless performance. With that noted we implemented the vertical stand / base due to seeing higher consistent metrics of wireless performance. This also held true for the AC66U and N66U which we advised should be positioned using the included stand for optimal performance. That being noted your feedback is something we are considering along with the feedback from the rest of our users.

  25. lolaberwoots
    lolaberwoots 9 months ago .Reply

    Good afternoon JJ,

    We live in a rural place where internet is only achievable via unlimited 3G/4G data on our mobile phones, which we tether via USB to our computers or broadcast using the usual router capabilities embedded in our phones (hotspot). Will this new Asus router allow us to tether our mobile phones to it and therefore broadcast a strong signal through the Asus router. We know the USB connection in the Asus routers allow for a broadband dongle to feed data into it, however does the firmware support mobile phones too? This is actually extremely useful to many people in areas where there is simply no wired or fibre internet and people can’t afford having a mobile dongle besides paying already for unlimited data on their phones. I’d like to believe Asus is contemplating this support if they have not implemented it already and they do empathise with the many users who require such a functionality along with the latest goodness of wireless ac. My gratitude for the extraordinary products you are actively developing and releasing on and on, and for your down-to-earth and no-nonsense approach to technology. It is particularly remarkable the way Assus team explain and present products in their podcasts, instructional videos and instructional PDFs with a clear mind, synthetic approach and austere attitude. Thanks, Lola Berwoots, UK.

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      This is something we are looking into currently but there are number of issues in regards to compatibility and overall interoprability as well as carrier differences. That being noted we see value in this type of functionality. Keep in mind you can always repeat the signal of the hotspot on your phone via the routers firmware to create a farther reaching and higher performing network.

  26. Jerry
    Jerry 9 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ,

    I am using RT-AC68U now. I find sometimes the CPU’s temperature is around 85-87ºC. Is it normal? thanks!

  27. KW
    KW 9 months ago .Reply

    May I ask when will it be released?

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      As of now it is still under design and development with no projected release date. Stay tuned for more information.

  28. Sanchu Varkey
    Sanchu Varkey 9 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ,
    Is it possible to connect a USB MODEM/Dongle as an input to this router and share the internet ? Does this new router (87U) support this ?

  29. Sean Estes
    Sean Estes 9 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ,

    Appreciate the constant feedback, I’d also like to put my name in the hat for being able to not only have a stand but make it wall mountable as well. I’d like to buy 2 of them. One of them would be put in my Hallway and another downstairs, so having the option of it being wall mounted is really preferable. I’ve heard good things about ASUS and am looking forward to this New Router.

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      Thanks for the feedback. I agree on the wall mounting option and we are looking to maintain support for this on the majority if not all of our performance oriented routers. The flexibility in positioning is great.

  30. Sky1111
    Sky1111 9 months ago .Reply

    Performance of RT-AC87U CPU – concern for OpenVPN client users.

    Hi JJ, I am long term ASUS fan – and I went thru RT-N16, RT-N56U and currently on RT-AC56U. I was very disappointed with CPU on AC68 – the same as on AC56 and it is only 800MHz, while your competition chose 1Ghz version of the same CPU…
    Will AC87U have better/faster CPU? CPU speed makes a huge difference on OpenVPN client throughput, and even internal network transfers.

    Can you please put faster CPU and faster RAM on RT-AC87? (keeping fingers crossed)

    • Sky1111
      Sky1111 9 months ago .Reply

      There are already indications of BCM4709 being the CPU – which would have been OK a year ago… any chances of anything better than that?
      or if cost prohibitive – can ASUS at least optimize OpenVPN to you use both CPU cores (currently it is using only one)?

      • JJ
        JJ 9 months ago .Reply

        More complete specifications outside of what has been detailed for the 87U are not available at this time due to the ongoing design and development. As to improved VPN functionality we are working on adding a number of improvements to VPN functionality in our next generation of ASUS WRT.

    • JJ
      JJ 9 months ago .Reply

      As you know frequency is only part of the performance metrics that are relevant when designing and developing a product. ASUS has had a strong track record of putting out the highest performing routers with most advanced hardware design implementations including SOC, hardware nat, memory etc. Rest assured we will be looking to push the envelope with the 87U. As of now cannot go into more details due to the hardware and total design still being under design and development. Stay tuned for more information.

      • Sky1111
        Sky1111 9 months ago .Reply

        Hi JJ, you will not believe what performance difference I see on AC56 when CPU clock of 1200MHz and memory running at 800 (stock is 800/533). Not just overclocking bragging rights, but real world measured VPN performance…
        That does require a much better than stock cooling. I understand that it all comes with the cost, but on ~$200 router we do expect a lot – both performance and design wise.
        I have faith in you – given what I’ve seen from ASUS before, you can and should get it right this time…

        thanks in advance!

  31. lolaberwoots
    lolaberwoots 9 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ,

    Thanks for your previous answer regarding support for 4G mobile phone tethering. In countries different than USA, unlimited 3/4G or LTE data plans for flat rates are an affordable reality since a few years (Sweden, Norway, England, etc) and due to business plan models telecommunication companies offer this type of service instead of cable or fibre in many rural places. A router handling this is truly needed. Regarding the hardware design being one of the most advanced, I’d like to point out that when there are multiple users exhausting all routers connections, working on high-speed AC transfer rates, would be very useful to have the router accepting more than one line-in (dual ethernet, dual usb or dual sim card) with load balancing and fall-back capability. Please also have in mind that at this speed, the presence of USB 3.0 is vital, and would love to see the current USB 2.0 dropped in favour of a faster USB 3.0, so we can at least two of them.

  32. boydmichelle@yahoo.com.au

    Mwah

  33. divcorp
    divcorp 8 months ago .Reply

    I would also liek to advise that my current high-end set up uses a shelf, which this router will not be able to use if it stands up. I would very much appreaciate the ability to lay this router flat It is kind of unfeasible to develop a router that only stands up and beign wall mountable is NOT an option for me. I use highly specialized security systems and the routers need to be the fastest in the industry. The compartments we place them in are not tall enough. It is very important to implement this or I will simply have to wait for another solution.

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      This type of real world feedback is always appreciated. Thank you!

  34. John
    John 8 months ago .Reply

    Mr. JJ,
    Will it release in 2014 or 2015?

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      We are projecting a 2014 release time frame.

  35. Tanner
    Tanner 8 months ago .Reply

    Are you done makeing the ASUS RT-AC87U router yet?

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      No this unit is still under design and development.

  36. Chris
    Chris 8 months ago .Reply

    Hi

    Has the throughput specifications been released yet?

    I am not referring to the WiFi throughput, but rather WAN throughput.

    My current router has hardware based NAT with a throughput of around 800Mbps. As internet connection speeds are getting faster, this will one day be exceeded.

    I intend on purchasing this router when it is released, mostly for the 802.11AC Wave 2 features, but a high WAN throughput is going to be required future proofing wise, so I am hoping it is going to be at least equal to my current router?

    If not, do ASUS have any 802.11AC Wave 2 Wireless Access Points available/in the pipeline that I could connect to my Gigabit wired network instead?

    Thanks

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      At this time we will no additional details on hardware topology are available. As always stay tuned for more information. Rest assured though our focus is to provide outstanding performance in all respects including WAN throughput which we have shown consistently to lead competitors in whether it be optimized Turbo NAT ( that are software ) as well as Hardware NAT based solutions.

  37. Andre
    Andre 8 months ago .Reply

    Cunt you saying something about the probable release date?

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      Currently no the product is still under design and development. Currently all we can communicate is a release this year.

  38. Sky1111
    Sky1111 8 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ, your competition is out with significantly faster SOC – I am talking about Linksys 1900. It has dual core 1.2 GHz CPU (which I am guessing will be faster than 1GHz BCM4709 on AC87U), plus it has eSATA+USB ports.
    How ASUS is going to jump over this gap? AC87 is coming to market at least 6 months after linksys, and it will not be the top dog from the day one. Given how many issues AC68U owners have, I do not expect AC87 to be perfect and performance optimized form the day one.
    So too late to change CPU/PCB, and you can squeeze only that much from software. So is there a game plan to reclaim the performance crown or you guys going to win the race by just claiming “the world’ fastest router”? :)
    P.S. I may sound harsh, but I do care and I do want ASUS to offer something no one else cannot touch for at least 6 months… just using Quantenna chip is not enough…

  39. Joshua Bergus
    Joshua Bergus 8 months ago .Reply

    Sky1111, I know the answer to your question:

    “Currently no the product is still under design and development. Currently all we can communicate is a release this year.”

    This is the issue when companies decide to show off a product that actually is still under their R&D department. It generates a lot of anxiety and wears out customer’s patience. It reminds me a bit what Apple does, which is why I can’t relate to a company like that.

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      While we may be making an initial announcement early at what is coming down the pipeline we are active in providing information and more importantly collecting feedback from our users and the community.

  40. Sanchu Varkey
    Sanchu Varkey 8 months ago .Reply

    i agree with @Sky1111. For the fastest router we must have the best cpu as well.

  41. corey
    corey 8 months ago .Reply

    can you give us a hint whether it will be released Q3 or Q4 of this year

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      There is no additional information to provide at this time. Stay tuned.

  42. Ad
    Ad 8 months ago .Reply

    Same here I’m waiting for this unit and maybe thinking to buy Linksys that will be out on April 10th.

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      This unit is still under design and development. Based on our track record of superior firmware tuning and antenna optimization I would still say our RT-68U is a great unit. If you really want an outstanding next generation unit I like the 87U as always good things are worth the wait. Stay tuned for more information.

      • Shane
        Shane 8 months ago .Reply

        You have no way of knowing that the 87U will be a better device overall, it’ll arrive a long time after the WRT1900AC.

        Folks who can’t wait that long are best-off getting the Linksys & looking out for comparative reviews done by independent sites like smallnetbuilder.

        If it turns out that the 87U is slightly better overall, one can easily sell their Linksys & upgrade.

  43. Sky1111
    Sky1111 8 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ, I have software feature request for the upcoming version of ASUS WRT: selective VPN routing

    Background: current ASUS firmware already supports OpenVPN Client. VPN usually impacts the Internet speed, so in many cases it is practical to restrict VPN to specific IPs/MAC addresses on the local network, instead of putting the whole network on the VPN.

    Proof of demand: multiple threads on ASUS/Merlin firmware forum: http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/forumdisplay.php?f=42
    More and more people started using VPN services, and such feature will be very helpful.

    • warfab
      warfab 8 months ago .Reply

      I agree selective VPN routing is needed. Please implement it for your OpenVPN client

      • JJ
        JJ 7 months ago .Reply

        Thanks for the feedback it is always appreciated.

  44. Ad
    Ad 8 months ago .Reply

    Ad,

    I 100% agree with Sky1111 suggestions selective VPN routing would be a great feature.

    Parental Control feature enhancement would be great too.. ex: blocking Sites

    Thank you!

  45. Shane
    Shane 8 months ago .Reply

    So is this available, when can it be expected in Australia?
    I look forward to comparing it to the WRT1900AC.

    Thank-you!

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      This unit is still under design and development. Once we are prepared to release more information on the final specifications, features and functions as well as availability PCDIY will release this information. Stay tuned.

  46. Shane
    Shane 8 months ago .Reply

    Why is my comment awaiting moderation!?

    • JJ
      JJ 8 months ago .Reply

      All comments await moderation it is our default to ensure there is no spamming as well as ensuring thread consistency.

      • Shane
        Shane 8 months ago .Reply

        It’s a terrible default to have, it’ll turn-off many potential readers/followers.

        Having that default removed, doesn’t mean you can’t effectively deal with SPAM.

        • JJ
          JJ 8 months ago .Reply

          Appreciate your feedback. This is something I will continue to monitor. We of course are looking to provide open and accessible options for users and readers to discuss and comment. There are number of new items being discussed internally for the site and a revision to the current posting system is part of hat discussion.

  47. RAW
    RAW 8 months ago .Reply

    A few queries:
    1) Is it time for USB 31. with c-cable?
    2) Could a router work with VOIP providers so I don’t need a separate VOIP device on my local network for my land-line. I realize that most modern people don’t have a land-line. I still use VOIP with old-fashioned UNIDEN handsets.
    3) Will the recently announced Ready Mode Technology from Intel mean that I can just leave my (still-to-be-purchased, next) computer on all the time, with better response than a USB hard drive on my router?

  48. cliff
    cliff 8 months ago .Reply

    I agree with Sky1111. Many people have smart tvs or set top boxes for hulu, netflix, pandora, and use vpns t bypass geolocation restrictions. Others also download questionable content, but do so from a dedicated system. So a selective vpn option would be great. More and more, this will become a much bigger selling point than wireless speeds.

  49. Adrian Kershaw
    Adrian Kershaw 8 months ago .Reply

    +1 again for selective routing. I know this is possible at the moment, but is too difficult and time consuming to understand and implement for most novice users.

  50. Sanchu Varkey
    Sanchu Varkey 8 months ago .Reply

    I am voting for selective routing because i use vpn for watching services like Hulu and this is not possible with my current set up.
    Thanks

  51. Wyatt
    Wyatt 8 months ago .Reply

    JJ please stop killing wall mounting for routers or come up with a bracket, not everyone wants to have it on a desk

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      ASUS has long had support for wall mount on the majority of its routers and we have definitely heard feedback on keeping this functionality. Rest assured we are working with our team on performance oriented models to try to ensure the tooling and design offers this great benefit. Thanks for the feedback!

  52. Joshua Bergus
    Joshua Bergus 8 months ago .Reply

    I vote for AUTOMATIC selective routing as well. However it would be desirable to have it working in a way that could really makes things easier. If I am streaming content in the UK and then decide to select a channel that only streams to geographic zones within the USA, then I would like the router to switch to the pre-configured VPN to route that specific stream. So all becomes a seamless experience due to well planned design and control inside the router and not having to manually re-route each stream.

  53. Daniel L.
    Daniel L. 7 months ago .Reply

    I wish someone one day will really explain how multiple antennas work… in this case 4. So many geeks/techies want to know the real deal, if one is assigned to a specific band, if orientation really matter and such, otherwise we will think that it’s only for marketing purpose. Like mine is bigger than yours, you know…

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      I think this has been explained pretty well by sources that actually understand networking equipment. With that in mind though you can rest assured for content coming from PCDIY we will work hard to provide you clear information on the design implementations on routers. Stay tuned!

  54. ac
    ac 7 months ago .Reply

    Hi. will this be possible to power using standard PoE (802.3af / 802.3at)? I want to install the router at location optimal for reception and it would be ideal if no additional power cables were needed.

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      I will work to confirm with our team on this but I would suspect due to the design and functionality present in the unit this will not be possible. This is something consider though for future designs.

  55. ac
    ac 7 months ago .Reply

    I noticed this answer:
    JJ: “No sure what your question is asking? eSATA cannot be used for any other device outside of storage. For USB 3.0 we have no had issues with it degrading USB 3.0 performance if anything for higher performing 802.11AC solutions it is one of the only options to enabling ultra high speed external wireless adapters.”

    I believe the original commenter was referring to numerous NewEgg reviews of another Asus RT-device which point out that if USB3 device is connected, the 2.4 Ghz signal becomes very weak, supposedly due to interference from the USB3 signaling leaking into the RF range. It’s not sure if this is cable specific issue, so perhaps Asus should print a note in the manual if some cheap cables have problems (I’ve read USB3 cables come in wild variety of quality)

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      In response to this the signal can be impacted but it still very usable. In the seven this type of reduced performance occurs you can enable an option within the firmware to assist in resolving this issue. The issue has to do with USB devices especially flash drives where shielding is generally non existent or in cables of low quality.

  56. Fox
    Fox 7 months ago .Reply

    What is estimated time frame on this. Looking for something soon! There is a lot of months left in this year. So some time this year is awfully vague!

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      At this time we still in the design and development stage and do not have more information on a hard release time frame / date. Rest assured as we come closer to release of this unit and other ASUS networking products we will provide information via PCDIY.

  57. Al
    Al 7 months ago .Reply

    When is the launch date ?

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      The unit is still under design and development and when we approach the actual release date more information will be released. Stay tuned to PCDIY for more information.

  58. hlavva
    hlavva 7 months ago .Reply

    Are you thinking about wallmounting?

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      Yes of course we are definitely looking to try and ensure this type of functionality on future products. Thanks for the feedback.

  59. Vaszago
    Vaszago 7 months ago .Reply

    A few weeks ago there was talk of a new GUI for the AC models. With many new features. Is there already news about it. Or a relaese date.

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      We are hard at work with the next generation of ASUS WRT 2.0 most likely this will align with a roll out for our next generation router and then roll out across our other AC routers. As both are still under design and development I cannot provide more details than that. With that noted we are still enhancing the functionality and features of the current WRT firmware until the next generation is completed.

  60. DJ Nyce (@djnyce)
    DJ Nyce (@djnyce) 7 months ago .Reply

    please hurry. i need to get rid of this shitty netgear asap!

  61. Paul Dijkstra
    Paul Dijkstra 7 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ, are reading your comments here. Really looking forward to the new 87U model. Now I’m using the 68U. I hope that the new 87U has a more powerful cpu (1.2 duocore) and faster ram speed. Hopefully it will be released soon ;)

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      It is going to be a very impressive unit. Stay tuned and thanks for the support.

  62. Cliff
    Cliff 7 months ago .Reply

    My n66u is 80% perfect.
    The CPU and ram is limiting my OpenVPN client connection from 20 mbps to 7 mbps. So I am waiting for a higher frequency CPU router essentially. If it is fast enough, then I won’t need selective VPN routing for my own personal use. Next thing is that with my N66U, DDNS (ASUSCOMM.COM) works fine, until I start my openvpn connection.
    I assume this is normal, as my WAN IP changed. There should be a way to send your new OpenVPN wan IP to asuscomm.com for DDNS every 10 minutes or so. Not just the IP the router gets from the ISP.

    Currently, I need to choose between my home security cameras, or having Netflix USA working.

    Last, and biggest issue, the AC87U is non existent. All I know is that supposedly, it is still in design stage. That could mean 6 months to 2 years before it is released..

  63. corey
    corey 7 months ago .Reply

    personally i cant wait till this router is debuted cause im sick of my DGL-4500 that was supposed to the best router till they discontinued it a couple of months later i hope the same fate doesnt happen to this router cause my current router reboots every 2 hours or so

  64. ac
    ac 7 months ago .Reply

    What wifi chip or soc will this have? I did some research which suggests that of the past vendors, Intel and Ralink are said to have good range. I believe Asus has been using Ralink and Broadcom in the past in the RT- units.

    Also as this is a PCDIY blog I’d like to put forth an idea for a “home data hoarder motherboard” with 2 Intel southbridges (more than 12 Intel sata ports preferably) and 10 GBe NIC. I’m still running 775 and looking to upgrade to broadwell and main criteria are amount of high quality SATA ports along with some legacy compat like atleast 1 PCI slot. I’m not spending a dime on NAS or SAS as the first one is slow and not native and SAS stuff is overpriced if you don’t need or want all that raid stuff.

    10 years ago I had my first motherboard with 1 GBe LAN. Given that consumer HDD’s have for ~5 years now done nearly 200 MB/s with SSD’s now at 700 MB/s, there’s clear demand to LAN ports to support this speed.

  65. ac
    ac 7 months ago .Reply

    Another idea, but not sure if this is possible to implement at all?

    Lets suppose you have neighbours you know well and they all want reliable and low latency internet.
    Each neighbour agree to get different ISP. Now each also get a router than connects to each others wifi box.
    Then depending on which web site you connect to, the traffic gets routed from either your or through you neighbours router (through wifi), based on the latency.
    I am not entirely sure how to setup this kind of network while maintaining the same IP though when each ISP assigns IPs from DHCP that are in different subnet.

    This way if any one ISP connection fails or has stupid routing (EU->US->EU when fastest was EU->EU, I’ve seen these a lot), you’ll have the router pick the one that works or with lower latency or better bandwidth (it should be able to try both connections and pick the best path depending on whether its a file transfer or something needing low latency like opening web site).

  66. Shane
    Shane 7 months ago .Reply

    Two excellent posts sir, apparently not all folks in the internetz are idiots.

    Please also share your ideas on major competitors sites/blogs (belkin/linksys, netgear etc, I can point you to the best places).

    Ultimately it’s better for all of us when there’s vicious competition, & there’s little between the major players.

    Cheers.

    @asus
    Please allow this post, no partisan censoring please!

  67. Paul
    Paul 7 months ago .Reply

    Hi, I see comments about OpenVPN Client… Will the unit support OpenVPN Server mode as well… I use dd-wrt for this functionality with my current router. BTW I’ve added more devices to my network and my current router is starting to have reliability issues from that…need to reboot it weekly now… Hope the new router comes out soon.

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      We are working on a number of new functions for our WRT firmware. Once we get closer to the release of our newer routers along with our new WRT firmware we will detail a wide range of new functions and features we looking to incorporate. Stay tuned for more information.

  68. shpankey (@shpankey)
    shpankey (@shpankey) 7 months ago .Reply

    JJ, we really need a fast CPU and fast (and more) RAM to get the performance from OpenVPN we all desire. Linksys has an impressive unit right now, 1.2 Ghz dual core with a ton of ram. You really need to pound the crap out of that. Push for a 2.0 ghz quad core CPU. Please! VPN kills our throughput b/c of slow cpu’s. I’m on an Asus AC66u and if I use a PC to handle the vpn I get 120 mbit throughput, and around 10 if I use my router b/c of the crap CPU. Please don’t skimp on this, you really need to deliver on the CPU in particular, and just matching the WRT1900 Linksys won’t due.

    • JJ
      JJ 7 months ago .Reply

      Fully understand what you are communicating and we are working on designing some impressive hardware to offer the best performance possible. With that noted keep in mind that CPUs / SOC can not just be added they have to be supported by the overall design implementation in addition we are in an interesting time in advancing functionality that can be offered in routers but may still be better served by PC platforms such as complex serving functions,VPN and more. This is why NAS units can still offer faster performance for many functions due to having much faster processors.

  69. Steve
    Steve 7 months ago .Reply

    I have roommates and I would love if I could give each of them their own SSID where I could limit their monthly download capacity (taking into consideration time of day), and maximum upload and download speeds.

  70. PacoBell
    PacoBell 7 months ago .Reply

    I think RAW was referring specifically to eSATAp (as in “powered”) ports. They’re combination USB 3.0 and eSATA ports.

  71. Bob
    Bob 6 months ago .Reply

    Nothing to see here…move along people

  72. Frederic
    Frederic 6 months ago .Reply

    Is there any indication for a release date? I might upgrade to AC68U, but maybe it’s better to hold out.

    • JJ
      JJ 6 months ago .Reply

      Currently there is no defined release time frame outside of a projected Q3 or possible Q4 time frame. As we have more information to deliver including specific time frame for release it will be posted here on the PCDIY website.

  73. Jim Adams
    Jim Adams 6 months ago .Reply

    Is the physical size the same as last years RT-AC68U ?

    • JJ
      JJ 6 months ago .Reply

      Dimension specifications will be disclosed once we are closer to the actual release of the router.

  74. kristy foster
    kristy foster 6 months ago .Reply

    JJ will the 87U have any type of detection for channel interference from other neighbors AP devices & ability to automatically change channels? similar to Cisco ClearAir Technology? – also any 3×3 (or 4×4) USB Wireless adapters available… seems like everything is all 2×2 866mbps so the only way too take advantage is buying two routers & put one in bridging mode.

  75. For JJ
    For JJ 6 months ago .Reply

    JJ PLZ ask them to hurry up lol . i want a new router and have been waiting for so long . :(
    Why don’t you guys make your own PCI Express like intel 7260 for laptops ?

    • JJ
      JJ 6 months ago .Reply

      Routers take a long time and the CES announcement was just to provide visibility at what was coming down the pipe. I am sure you can understand though prioritizing functionality, stability, performance and overall reliability. In addition there are a lot of new firmware items we are implementing. Stay tuned though for more information.

  76. Dijkstra88
    Dijkstra88 6 months ago .Reply

    @JJ Asus just announced the Asus RT-AC3200 router. Is this a competitor for the 87U or is that router aimed at a higher price range? Nice specs from the AC3200 model :). Looking forward to it.

    • JJ
      JJ 6 months ago .Reply

      Check out the recent post on the AC3200 you will see a little more information. they will both exist in the market place and differences in the hardware design will favor different usage scenarios.

    • Shane
      Shane 6 months ago .Reply

      For a better (& less misleading) explanation read this:
      http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-news/32429-ac3200-routers-by-july
      Also make sure you follow the two main forum threads there about this device.

      • Shane
        Shane 6 months ago .Reply

        Wehn I say “this device”, I mean the RT-AC3200.

        • kristy foster
          kristy foster 6 months ago .Reply

          RT-AC3200 vs RT-AC87U – Don’t Be Confused

          the case for buying the AC87U

          if your talking about max performance in the home. The 87U will provide a 1700Mbps 5GHZ 802.11AC 4×4 Bridge between the two routers… and if you can get your clients laptops with build in 802.11AC (like the Intel AC7260 card) connected on the 5Ghz you will get 866mbps 2×2 Max connection (until someone releases a 3×3 internal card or USB device then 1300Mbps)

          in this case if you have 2-3 older 802.11N or G devices connect them to the 2.4ghz radio with a 40mhz channel if no other networks are nearby (or a 20mhz wil give better throughput if it’s there are lots of other wireless networks around)… my understanding this will NOT slow down your 5Ghz 1300 bridge or 866mbps clients

          (if you attempted to connect your 802.11N 5ghz to the existing 802.11AC 5ghz it would slow down your overall network

          So why buy the AC-3200

          the Speed of this Router is Slower… limited to 1300Mbps 3X3… (you cannot bond for a single 2600Mbps connection) it’s “Tri-Band” meaning in the case above your bridge would be limited to 1300Mbps not 1700mbps but the big advantage is that a slower client would not slow down the rest of your network

          so you have all your 802.11AC 5Ghz clients connect to Radio #1 – your 802.11N 5GHZ would connect to Radio #2 and your older 2.4ghz would connect to Radio #3 – so for an office or “mix mode” office this would be a better router..

          to make this more confusing some companies like Cisco are introducing 802.11AC routers with 4 physical antennas but still 1300Mbps – the forth antenna is basically used for better reception – but consumers see 4 antennas and think it’s faster.

          basically what you want is an 802.11AC routers with the largest channel size like 160mhz vs 80mhz and the greatest # of streams.. take a look at the visual chart below it explains things in more detail – so you want to buy a router with 8 Streams on the 160mhz channel for 6.92Gbps throughput – but this doesn’t exist yet.

          http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/ofSpatialStreams.png

          • Shane
            Shane 6 months ago .

            Close… But no cigar…

  77. Niclas
    Niclas 5 months ago .Reply

    I think that one of the man questions are clients. Is Asus going to release a MU-MIMO dongle, too?

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      Stay tuned for more information on upcoming client adapters. As of right now our focus is on ensuring interoprability and compatibility as well as performance for current 802.11AC client adapters such as popular 2×2 solutions, and 3×3 solutions.

      • John
        John 5 months ago .Reply

        Please Release it :) We Have been waiting for soooooo long

        • JJ
          JJ 5 months ago .Reply

          We are in last stages of firmware tuning looking to ensure strong performance, interoprability, compatibility and overall functionality. Stay tuned for more information on this unit soon!

  78. PD
    PD 5 months ago .Reply

    I currently have Netgear R7000 (stock firmware has lots of issues fixed only in WRT options) and was looking forward to Linksys WRT1900AC but again put off by hardware/firmware issues and lack of WRT options. I push the advanced features very hard having to conduct quite a few sessions that require steady sustained high bandwidth (Ethical Hacking) and have some serious OpenVPN requirements. If Asus can deliver the ability to push configuration parameters to client computers connecting over different VPNs then I’m buying the first RT-AC87U on the shelf. If not, I’ll pass. I have multiple VPNs that connect incoming clients to different parts of my internal network and each needs different ip configuration parameters pushed to the clients. I specifically need to push different name resolution servers (DNS) or push /etc/hosts file updates to the clients only during the VPN session and have them reuse their previous configuration parameters after the VPN session is disconnected. I do this all the time on my enterprise systems but have found the VPN implementations on even high end consumer routers leaving the users to resort to hacks and trickery or manually making the clients reconfigure their computers after VPN session establishment and hopefully remember to reset them back after VPN is disconnected which of course never happens leading to increased technical support costs and time issues. So like I said, the first proper VPN server implementation in high-end consumer wifi router has my next vote with my wallet.

  79. Pavel Parhomenko
    Pavel Parhomenko 5 months ago .Reply

    when release date?

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      We are in the last stages of fine tuning firmware and going through interoprability, compatibility and performance tuning. Stay tuned for more information soon.

  80. Bud
    Bud 5 months ago .Reply

    JJ,
    I’m danger close in buying a new router. I was going to purchase the 68U but I’m concerned about the USB 3.0 performance. From what I’ve read, this problem is fixed with the 87U. I know you cant give us an exact date, but will it be this year when you release the 87U. Can you narrow it down to a specific quarter? Will the price be the same, or close as the 68U? Thanks.

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      There is no issue with USB 3.) performance with the 68U. It is a question of focusing on prioritizing pure USB 3.0 performance or affecting 2.4GHz range / throughput. Even with the prioritizing 2.4Ghz range and throughput the performance is still very good. The option within the firmware is provided to allow for the most flexibility in how can tune the performance of the router. As for the 87U stay tuned for release information soon. At this time we are looking to be on schedule for a release target previously announced for early Q3. Stay tuned to PCDIY for more information.

      • Shane
        Shane 5 months ago .Reply

        Eh? I don’t recall you previously announcing it for early Q3?
        Either way it sounds like 1st shipments are starting to solidify for 2014.

        Good news.

        • JJ
          JJ 5 months ago .Reply

          This is what we did communicated at CES. With that noted please stay tuned. Updates for the unit will be coming soon and will be posted to the PCDIY website as well as YouTube channel.

          • Shane
            Shane 5 months ago .

            If you truly do manage early Q3 (i.e. July) that will indeed be impressive, assuming the MU-MIMO implementation is solid, & there’s some adapters available upon release, or soon after.

      • Shane
        Shane 5 months ago .Reply

        @JJ

        Can you please address my post?!?
        Above ^ Thank-you.

  81. Pavel Parhomenko
    Pavel Parhomenko 5 months ago .Reply

    Ну… Месяц-два?

  82. Pavel Parhomenko
    Pavel Parhomenko 5 months ago .Reply

    Well … a month or two?

  83. Jo
    Jo 5 months ago .Reply

    Been soooo loonnnnggg waiting for this one..

  84. Daniel
    Daniel 5 months ago .Reply

    Has it been confirmed yet that this model will be wall mountable like my RT-N66u which i am looking to upgrade with this model – ONLY if its wall mountable and preferably with the same mounting screw positions to make life easier

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      The unit will support wall mounting.

  85. Frank Stoltz
    Frank Stoltz 5 months ago .Reply

    What has happened with the Asus router 87u is what in marketing is called “remaining one step ahead of your competitors” by means of announcing imaginary new products that will only become real at the time of their release date. It is essential to the success of a business niche (the router class in this case) that would make customers want to buy from you (Asus in this case) rather than the other guys, even when the other guys have released their real products already. Once the customer has bought the latest product in the mentioned niche, then it is highly unlikely they will invest again in something similar, which is why and when these marketing techniques are out in place by companies, in a an attempt to keep customers loyal. Customers should just always buy the latest technology without waiting, which will stop companies using these techniques and instead just working hard to deliver a release dates that could beat competition. If this new router Asus 87u is delivering new technology ahead of its time, then it can be said Asus is beating the competition, however is it really the case?

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      Thank you for your feedback as always it is appreciated. It is important to keep in mind that these products are announced a tech shows like Computex, CES just like other industries and the lead time especially for new generation designs or products based on new technology / chipsets can take some time prior to formally being released to the product. Especially with a product like a router where there is a heavy level of testing and validation and tuning that occurs this time can be fluid. This is why general targets are used for relaying availability time frames such as Q3 of 2014.

      With that noted this is also why we have created sites like PCDIY to provide a medium of information delivery where we can be proactive in providing updates for users interested in the product. Stay tuned for more information soon. We have finalized all aspects of the router and are currently in the last stages of performance tuning, interoprability and compatibility optimization and general firmware validation.

  86. Bud
    Bud 5 months ago .Reply

    Aaaaargh. It’s the 1st of July and the 87U is not released yet. Cant hold on much longer, must buy a router soon. I sure hope this thing lives up to the hype.

  87. Ryner
    Ryner 5 months ago .Reply

    JJ, i have a stupid question will my current laptop support MU-MIMO?

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      Most likely no it will be dependent on the client adapter you currently have in your notebook and the driver / firmware. We will be working to release information on tested / compatible MU-MIMO adapters at a later date.

  88. David
    David 5 months ago .Reply

    Hi,
    I have been looking for a router that will do at least 50 port forwards can’t understand memory gets bigger and cheaper and more and more equipment in the home is accessible via the web yet manufactures seem to limit port forwards to 10-20 would be interested in your thoughts

    • Nicce
      Nicce 5 months ago .Reply

      IPv6 is the next step and an a global IP for each device.

  89. Jo
    Jo 5 months ago .Reply

    July 3, 2014 Q3 already.. come on ASUS…

    • Shane
      Shane 5 months ago .Reply

      Ah 1st world problems, gotta love em…

  90. Bud
    Bud 5 months ago .Reply

    Can’t hold on much longer. 68U now on sale (4th of July) at Amazon for $180. Do I buy, or do I wait for the 87U. Decisions decisions.

  91. David heard
    David heard 5 months ago .Reply

    Bud I know ur pain I’m at the same point have n66u at the min want a upgrade to dno wot to do lol

    • CyberTri
      CyberTri 5 months ago .Reply

      Me too! Exact same situation. I also have a real need for external drive speed access. The Netgear AC is the only one out there with real decent speed through the USB 3.0 port. If the new Asus can at least match it, I will buy one for sure.

      • JJ
        JJ 5 months ago .Reply

        The current 68U has very solid USB 3.0 performance for most users this is more than enough for multiple HD streams from USB attached storage. More importantly the compatibility is very good with varying controllers. Stay tuned for more information on the 87U I can tell you already the performance is better than that of the 68U. Thanks for the view and support.

  92. Bud
    Bud 5 months ago .Reply

    JJ, I have four laptops with a mix of G and N clients. One X-Box 360 and a Wii, two wireless Blue-Rays, a wireless smart Tv, three iphones, and two ipads that often connect to Netflix. Is the 87U the right wireless router for me?

    Thanks

  93. Bud
    Bud 5 months ago .Reply

    Sorry, forgot to add, I would like to set up a WD 4TB USB 3.0 hard drive as a backup/NAS. Can the 87U do all that?

    Thanks

  94. Cliff
    Cliff 5 months ago .Reply

    @ JJ. The design between the RT-3200 and the 87U seem drastically different. Are there any hints as to which one will be faster for running as an openVPN client? That is my key deciding factor.

  95. CyberTri
    CyberTri 5 months ago .Reply

    Wait…I am lost Is this cancelled in place of the new AC3200?

    https://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC3200/

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      Regarding? This is another unit we have coming but is based on a different chipset with a different design. Overall if you are looking for the furthest range and highest wireless throughput this will be the upcoming 87U. Stay tuned for more information soon.

  96. Bud
    Bud 5 months ago .Reply

    JJ, soon is a relative term. How soon? Days, weeks, months? Please, give us a target. Thanks

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      As previously communicated Q3 is our target. We will be releasing more specific hopefully in the next couple of weeks but as of right now the focus is on finalizing performance tuning, interoprability testing and overall validation. Once these are complete we will define a more specific target date for release.

  97. KUSH
    KUSH 5 months ago .Reply

    I’m wondering what the delay is. Linksys/belkin dropped their big boy already and netgear just released the R8000. Sorry but the wait is too long for the features being offered. This thing is going to be dated by the time it’s released.

    • JJ
      JJ 5 months ago .Reply

      The R8000 just got released and is based on current AC based technology / chipsets. The Linksys unit is in line with our current 68U which generally offers superior range and throughput with the only area being given us USB 3.0 performance which is already very good for the majority of users. The upcoming 87U which will be released soon will be the first and only 4×4 MU-MIMO ready AC based chipset and will offer not only superior throughput and range but considerably more advanced features and functionality which is already present within the current WRT firmware. Stay tuned for more information soon on this unit. Those looking for a true wave 2.0 based solution offering advanced hardware based design along with extensive firmware functionality then this a unit worth waiting for. Additionally at the premium position of this unit our goal first and foremost is to ensure solid interoprability, compatibility, performance and overall functionality. I think all users who are interested in this product do not want to see a rushed piece of hardware with an inconsistent firmware.

  98. Bud
    Bud 5 months ago .Reply

    JJ,
    agreed. However, I’m sure you can understand everyone’s excitement waiting for this unit to be released. Do not rush it, make it right, but please let us know a release date as soon as you can. Lastly, any idea of the price range for the 87U? I don’t mind spending $220-$230, but anything beyond that will make me reevaluate if I really need the 87U. Thanks.

  99. CyberTri
    CyberTri 5 months ago .Reply

    JJ Stated

    “This is another unit we have coming but is based on a different chipset with a different design”

    In regards to the AC3200 Asus device in my link above. I can not understand how this model AC2300 type could be faster than the above AC3200 Asus device. Especially with Netgear releasing their newest AC3200. I don’t see this device ever releasing now.

    I would like to see smallnetbuilder benchmark the Netgear R8000 against the ASUS Router RT-AC3200 at some point.

    • Shane
      Shane 5 months ago .Reply

      “In regards to the AC3200 Asus device in my link above. I can not understand how this model AC2300 type could be faster than the above AC3200 Asus device. Especially with Netgear releasing their newest AC3200. I don’t see this device ever releasing now.”

      Sure, make that claim in the SNB forums, it should make for some amusing reading.

      • JJ
        JJ 4 months ago .Reply

        If you read SNB you will find out about some of the reasons why this could be the case as “numbers” do not always define performance. Additionally the 3200 branding is achieved by virtue of aggregating all bands that are active even though it is not a native 4×4 chipset like the AC2300 is. It all depends on how you want to interrupt the numbers. As noted in my response to another user below there is reason why both options will come to market. Our goal is to provide as much flexibility based on the environment and usage of users. We will be working on helping to provide information on our end as to where there are differences between the units. I can tell you the 87U is offering unquestionably the best performance we have seen from any AC based solution by very solid margins. This is with current 3×3 baed clients like our PCE AC68. With that noted we are in last stages of performance tuning and validation and you as well as other interested users will be able to see what the 87U brings to the table.

        • CyberTri
          CyberTri 4 months ago .Reply

          Thanks for your thoughtful and intelligent replies JJ.

      • JJ
        JJ 4 months ago .Reply

        The 87U will be released and will not be impacted by our design, development or production of our ASUS 3200 router. They utilize different chipsets and offer different levels of performance based on different types of usage considerations as well as different ways they achieve their respective performance benefits. Both models will be released by us. Stay tuned for more information.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      You will of course see reviews soon on both units once they are released as we will work with sites like SNB and other on performance analysis evaluation as well as releasing our own content. With that noted our immediate focus is first releasing the 87U additionally as I as you may know the “number” does not always define the performance of a product. Both the AC3200 and 87U will be high end, high throughput and long range units but in terms of maximum performance at this time it will be 87U where the AC3200 offers the benefit of potentially improved mixed mode or complex 5GHz 2.4Ghz environments. As always with wireless there are a wide range of aspects to consideration on what product and what implementation best suits your environment and usage. Stay tuned for more information soon.

  100. cryptochrome (@cryptochrome)

    I am going to move to a new house mid August. I will need completely new Wifi gear (2-3 routers, 2 of them in bridge mode).

    Does it make sense to wait for the 87U? Will I be able to get my hand on it by that time (can wait about 4 more weeks)?

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      Depends on your clients. With that noted the best range as of now will be offered by our 87U and also it will offer truly impressive performance across a wide range of AC based clients not just 3×3 based clients. There will also be optimal repeaters designed to be used with 87U in the event you need to repeat the signal to enhance performance or extend range. I would wait if it were me, we will be officially releasing and detailing this unit soon. Stay tuned.

  101. Nicce
    Nicce 4 months ago .Reply

    One thing that would be good to have is a DMZ that is truly isolated from the rest of the network. Some VLAN support in general would be good to have.

  102. CyberTri
    CyberTri 4 months ago .Reply

    I understand that Multi Hz antennas are an improvement for seperating slow and fast device connections in the 2.4 and 5Ghz range (the AC3200 devices).

    1. Even if the MU-MIMO AC2300 Asus is “faster”, doesn’t it still have to use a receiver that accept MU-MIMO speeds?

    2. If I only have 2.4 and 5ghz N devices (10-15), should I go with the Asus AC3200 for better antenna separation, or would the AC2300 still give me better range and throughput than AC3200?

    I hope that wasn’t confusing.

    • Shane
      Shane 4 months ago .Reply

      1. Supposedly there’s many devices out there (primarily 802.11ac) that have the ability “on chipset” & merely need to have it enabled via a fw update, there’ll prolly still be the odd client that has to be specifically purchased for that purpose.

      Also… read this…
      http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/32451-mu-mimo-vs-xstream-the-coming-battle-for-wi-fi-airtime

    • Shane
      Shane 4 months ago .Reply

      2. If you have that many clients, & they’re all being utilised quite heavily at the same time, then the benefits MU-MIMO may well start to shine because of the reduced time share. But if they’re all N only, then you won’t be able to take advantage.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      For complex and heavy client environments I generally try to recommend a two prong approach and not a single router approach. Meaning I would have a extremely mature and robust N based router like the N66 setup for n clients and then a AC router like the 87U for AC based clients. That being noted there are a number of technologies that are part of the 87U that offer improved performance and throughput for N and AC based clients. This is without introducing MU MIMO. Stay tuned fore more information.

      • Shane
        Shane 4 months ago .Reply

        “Meaning I would have a extremely mature and robust N based router for n clients and then a AC router for AC based clients.”

        Good point, forgot to mention that!

        “That being noted there are a number of technologies that are part of the 87U that offer improved performance and throughput for N based clients. This is without introducing MU MIMO.”

        Hmm, don’t recall reading about that, thanks for sharing!

  103. Jim Adams
    Jim Adams 4 months ago .Reply

    Netgear also has an AC-3200 router. Are you worried about a possible name confusion among customers?

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      This is sadly the nature of the industry in some respects. We are working to provide information to highlight the value in features, functionality and performance the 87U offers compared to our own product stack as well as other in the marketplace. Numbers are just a based indicator of specification and possible performance. A lot of work has been put into the 87U to offers class leading performance and functionality. I also working to have some great initial performance information and design detailing for the launch. Stay tuned.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      Yes officially launch is nearing. Stay tuned for official release information soon. We nearing final performance tuning and improvement to ASUS WRT 2.0

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      Stay tuned for information on general availability announcement along with additional launch details and information.

  104. Bud
    Bud 4 months ago .Reply

    JJ, if you guys are still focusing on finalizing performance tuning, interoprability testing and overall validation, how then will you be able to spin up production of this model to make it available to the masses in Q3? I cant see how this unit will be available for another six months unless you guys have thousands of these things already made just waiting to be programmed with firmware.

    • Nick
      Nick 4 months ago .Reply

      Maybe the first Thing to do is to update the FW. I am ok with that!

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      We will be offering this unit in Q3. All physical aspects in relation to design and development have been completed. Production and ramping of production will not be an issue. As of now our goal is to ensure a great out of box experience for this unit. Stay tuned for more details on release and other specifics soon.

  105. Don Ring
    Don Ring 4 months ago .Reply

    My local Best Buy had several of these routers on the shelf. Looks like they are selling them early. I have heard that the “official” release date is July 20th.

  106. James
    James 4 months ago .Reply

    JJ is the RT-AC87R the same as the RT-AC87U.
    It is the RT-AC87R that is available now at Best Buy.
    Thanks

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      Hardware wise yes the AC87R is the same unit as the 87U. There is a separate unit for retail purposes.

  107. Bud
    Bud 4 months ago .Reply

    Is there a difference between the 87U and the 87R? On SNB members are reporting (with pictures) that the 87R is already on sale. Many SNB members say the official release for 87U is 20 July (today) yet there is no news from Asus. I’m confused. JJ, throw us a bone will ya?

    • wolf26pack
      wolf26pack 4 months ago .Reply

      It seems like the way only place you can find it online or in store is Bestbuy. Maybe its a Bestbuy exclusive? I can’t find it at Amazon, Newegg, Fry’s or any where else for that matter. Plus like you said ASUS still hasn’t announced it yet. Very confusing!!

      • JJ
        JJ 4 months ago .Reply

        Stay tuned for more information on general availability announcement. Apologies on the confusion there can at time be difference in roll out strategy for product between various channels ( etail as opposed to retail ). Rest assured you will be able to find the 87U at all your normal etailers including Amazon, Newegg and others once general availability occurs. Details to come soon.

    • Shane
      Shane 4 months ago .Reply

      From what I’ve heard; “R” simply stands for retail version, i.e. supplied to specific retailers, U is the online only version, no difference, but JJ can corroborate that.

      It’s only on sale with one retailer, who apparently got a bit carried away or made a mistake.

  108. Vaszago
    Vaszago 4 months ago .Reply

    I hope the AC87 supports LTE usb modem to 150 mbit or more. Would a weak performance from Asus if not. Bask prefer a Dovado router. The can do that

    • Shane
      Shane 4 months ago .Reply

      Support for LTE Modems would indeed be nice, I know 3rd-party fw’s (DD-WRT etc) do support that quite well, not sure of stock fw for the latest/greatest makes & models.

  109. Bud
    Bud 4 months ago .Reply

    Yes Shane, I did read the thread. It doesn’t answer the question. If the device has already been delivered (but not on shelves yet) to retailers warehouses, then what is ASUS waiting on? It’s not like ASUS is going to ask all the retailers to return the units. I was under the impression this unit was still being tweaked (according to JJ). If so, why on earth is it already on the street (in warehouses)? And if it’s on the street, it must be ready for release. Sooooooo, what are we waiting on?
    If I’m going to purchase one, I want to make sure it’s worth it. Not trying to be difficult, just trying to figure out what’s going on with the 87U.

    • Shane
      Shane 4 months ago .Reply

      Don’t think you’re trying to be difficult at all. Patch updates over the net are easy & common: you say you’ve read the thread, yet in there Merlin (someone who knows the fw intimately) says it’s not ready for primetime yet, & is still waiting on some critical tweak/updates.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      As noted previously there are differences in product availability in roll out especially among different channels / etailers. Generally availability has not occurred yet.This will be announced soon along with formal websites and such going active. We are currently in the vary last stages of initial MP firmware roll out and deployment. The base firmware is functional but there are many new features and functions as well as fine tuning coming in MP release firmware. Once this general announcement is available along with published support pages I will be making a post here on site. Overall I feel confident in my evaluation of working with this unit enthusiasts looking for a great router will not be disappointed in performance, features and functionality. With that noted we have long term plans that are just kicking off right now in regards to WRT firmware and many of the units most specialized features and functions will come over time ( similarly as has been the case with our previous routers ). To clarify though this functionality and overall feature set is an extension of current feature set and functionality.

      • Shane
        Shane 4 months ago .Reply

        @JJ

        So, what BestBuy did was done with the (tacit) approval of Asus? One of your main 3rd-party fw devs seems pretty sure it wasn’t. And def. seems very “out-of-sync”, given all the things you need to wrap-up.

        Cheers.

      • Shane
        Shane 4 months ago .Reply

        @JJ

        Oh so you’re saying there’ll be *even more* cool features coming eventually via DD-WRT?

        Will those be outlined when you do the official announcement?

        • Taker418
          Taker418 4 months ago .Reply

          so JJ inquiring minds want to know; is the RT-AC87R the same model as the RT-87U i don’t wanna go out and buy it and its the wrong model im in desperate need to replace my DLINK DGL-4500..

          • JJ
            JJ 4 months ago .

            Yes i noted this in a previous response. The 87R is the same hardware as the 87U. It is specific to BestBuy other etailers / retailers will carrying the 87U.

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            Please search the thread before asking questions, JJ already answered this at least once (as did I).

        • JJ
          JJ 4 months ago .Reply

          Yes we are working right now on uploading the MP launch firmware as it is last stages of validation. With that noted we have a number of longer term features be planned as ongoing updates. If you are familiar with ASUS routers this is a trend we focus on incorporating new features and functionality over time such as AiCloud, VPN support, enhanced wireless management options, QoS, traffic monitoring, Router to router syncing and much more. We have many new functions that are still in development or validation that will be coming out to not only the 87U but other ASUS WRT enabled routers. Another example of this is the recent status update monitor showing CPU and RAM utilization we phased into the 68U and other ASUS WRT routers but will most likely first be noticed by users considering the 87U. I will be working to highlight these features in “hot of the press posts” let using know of the upcoming functionality or once it has firmware has been posted / released.

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            Thanks JJ, a much briefer answer would’ve sufficed, but this detailed one is appreciated!

            Also, you missed my other post, it was made before (above) the one that you just addressed:

            “So, what BestBuy did was done with the (tacit) approval of Asus? One of your main 3rd-party fw devs seems pretty sure it wasn’t. It def. seems very “out-of-sync”, given all the things you need to wrap-up.”

            Thanks again.

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            @JJ

            Could you please address this post made 4 days ago (see above).

            That post was the 1st *bump* to an earlier query, this is the 2nd.

            Thank-you!

  110. Bud
    Bud 4 months ago .Reply

    Shane, got it. Thanks.

  111. Ninjawithagun
    Ninjawithagun 4 months ago .Reply

    @JJ

    I just purchased the Asus AC87U router from Best Buy and then navigated over to the Asus website only to be shocked that there no support page has been set up yet for this router. Any word on when Asus plans to provide online support for the AC87U?

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      Sorry for the delay I am out of the office currently at ASUS HQ. THe product support site has gone live and we have recently released the first MP firmware. I am working on an initial post to provide some information and overall insight into the unit and aspects of its performance and functionality as well as some planned updates.
      http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=11&s=2&m=RT-AC87R&os=&hashedid=n%2fa

      • Shane
        Shane 4 months ago .Reply

        “The product support site has gone live and we have recently released the first MP firmware. I am working on an initial post to provide some information and overall insight into the unit and aspects of its performance and functionality as well as some planned updates.”

        Thanks JJ.

  112. Leon
    Leon 4 months ago .Reply

    Will it have any PoE ports?

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      No PoE is not a consumer related technology at this time it finds more usage in the SMB and SOHO market. With that noted we are continuing to monitor feedback from the community on the inclusion of this feature and other networking features or functions.

  113. CyberTri
    CyberTri 4 months ago .Reply

    Great thread here!! So informative.

    I would have bought an ASUS AC68U but I need very fast external drive access. The Netgear 1900 had about double the Asus speed, and the new Netgear AC3200 doubles the previous USB access speed.

    But it isn’t true MU-MIMO and truthfully, I can’t stand Netgears GUI.

    JJ. Do you know if Asus has handled the USB 3.0 external access speed side of the equation? Right now Netgear dominates in that area.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      Performance is already very good on the 68U but will be much better on the 87U due to an advanced hardware design implementation benefiting storage performance especially under real world usage where wireless is active along with the USB. Keep in mind ASUS offers a specialized option within the firmware to select your preferred mode of operation enhancing USB 3.0 performance with the possible side effect of affecting 2.4GHz wireless performance. This is a reality of the design implementation in a shared SOC. ASUS is currently the only competitor offering this option within the firmware but it does affect other USB 3.0 capable routers.

      That being noted if you are looking for the best USB 3.0 performance the 87U is the router for you.

  114. stephene
    stephene 4 months ago .Reply

    JJ, what should be the real hardware for AC-87U router? Is it from this site’s picture or the one from best buy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-extreme-wireless-ac2400-dual-band-gigabit-router/7230042.p?id=1219258061855&skuId=7230042&st=AC-87&cp=1&lp=1?

  115. Duality
    Duality 4 months ago .Reply

    I have just bought the ac68U a few days ago – I’m tempted to return it and wait for the ac87u to come out (officially). Is there actually a timeline to the release (other than a few bestbuy versions appearing?). I don’t want to be waiting for a few months before the new version comes out! (and I know the ac68u will drop in price a lot once this is released so i’ll loose money either way). I live in the UK and can’t buy the bestbuy one :(. But looking at the price of it in conversion its £10 more than what i paid for the ac68u!!! which makes me wonder if its worth me returning this one now. Is there any idea regarding the retail price for this unit?

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      I cannot comment on UK availability but if it aligns with overall mass etailer / retailer availability of the 87U it will be within the next 3 to 4 weeks. Price wise though I would not expect a significant price drop on the 68U as it is still a extremely high end router in regards to features, functionality and performance. Based on my hands on time with the 87U I would strongly recommend the 87U over the 68U in the areas of range, throughput and storage performance for the minimal increase in cost it is an easy recommendation.

  116. Bud
    Bud 4 months ago .Reply

    Great question CyberTri, I am wondering the same thing. I would like to use the 87U/R as a pseudo NAS using a USB 3.0 WD external drive. Also wondering if you can assign up to six different SSIDs like the 68U. Also Also wondering if the 87U will support BSSID (vice SSID). DD-WRT does, so I hope ASUS-WRT will.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      The unit will support 6 different SSIDs like our current flagship routers. This is part of our WRT firmware. As for BSSID it does not support display of this or ESS we are evaluating this for future firmware consideration.

  117. Richard
    Richard 4 months ago .Reply

    You won’t get true MU-MIMO till the newer NIC’s come out. Current NIC chipsets can’t do it.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      This is correct you will begin to see mobile devices along with other devices in Q4. With that noted we have seen very good gains in throughput and range with current generation 802.11AC based clients ( from x1 based solutions to x3 based solutions ). In addition there are a number of other benefits to this router outside of its support for MU-MIMO. It is great that overall performance will only become better with MU-MIMO enabled clients.

  118. cryptochrome (@cryptochrome)

    JJ, the press release says the AC87 will only be available in north america. Any word on whether the rest of the world will be able to enjoy this router as well?

    • Shane
      Shane 4 months ago .Reply

      What, where, no way!? Grrr…

      JJ said he was going to post here when things were officially launched :-/

      • cryptochrome (@cryptochrome)

        It’s up on the US asus homepage

        • Shane
          Shane 4 months ago .Reply

          Great, so US/NA only, typical… >.>

          Well, hopefully JJ updates us here (all along he’s said he will), & then points us to a new blog post which outlines “everything”.

          • JJ
            JJ 4 months ago .

            My formal post will be coming soon. Was waiting on final MP firmware to be posted in addition some exciting new developments on additional tuning have come up recently so I will currently evaluating how to detail launch ready functionality and performance along with upcoming performance and features / functionality . Stay tuned. We are target early first week of August for our overview content and detailing.

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            “We are target early first week of August for our overview content and detailing.”

            So probably Friday the 1st or Monday-Tues the 4-5th, excellent, “rubs hands”!

        • wolf26pack
          wolf26pack 4 months ago .Reply

          I just checked and all I see is the link to the press release on the Home Page. I’ve heard that it’s not even going to be released until mid to late August and I’m starting to not care for it anymore because of all the confusion and lack of semi firm release date. Everything has been so vague. Now I might just wait another year until they bring out something with the Range and speed of the 87u and the 3rd channel of the 3200 to make the most efficient and speedy router yet.

          • JJ
            JJ 4 months ago .

            Thank you for the feedback. The unit is currently available in the BestBuy model ( 87R ) which is the same as the 87U. In regards to general availability it will occur within 3 to 4 weeks.

          • wolf26pack
            wolf26pack 4 months ago .

            I appreciate you your commitment to the comments and feedback JJ. So I have a little more feedback.

            First I’d suggest in your next major release of a highly anticipated piece of hardware, don’t release it in such a fragmented form. It causes confusion and angst amongst your customers. As you’ve seen many times people continually ask

            “What is the difference between the R & U?”

            Simple answer, nothing one is retail and the others aren’t. So then the question becomes…

            “Why was Bestbuy the only Retail store to receive the RT-AC87? What about Fry’s, Micro center, etc…?

            I don’t have any confirmed answers there but if I was to guess perhaps Bestbuy paid ASUS for 2 weeks of exclusivity, which gives Bestbuy an advantage as there the only ones in town to get one if you really want it. It also allows them to charge $10.00 over MSRP, which will drop back down as soon as it is released to the e-tailers and other retailers. (Now this is just speculation) I don’t really know if this is the case. But see it leads people to speculate which is never a good thing.

            Finally the vague release dates, I mean I know a lot of manufactures use terms like Early/Late Q1,2, or 3 etc… Which is fine but once you fragmented the sales by allowing the release to only one retailer it become frustrating to hear the words ,” Soon, Shortly, etc…” Especially when you say that the R & U are identical. So then it begs the question what’s the hold up. Now I’m no business man so I may not understand distribution and the lengths and channels involved getting a product to market, but as a consumer well I know that I should be able to pick up a Router from my choice of store as long as they plan to carry it of course and not get gouged $10 extra dollars for the privilege.

            Now I’m not mad or anything this is all supposed to be constructive feedback. I’m sure you understand and thanks for keeping up in the comments.

          • JJ
            JJ 4 months ago .

            Thank you for your feedback it is sincerely appreciated. Please consider though there are number of factors that affect the entire process of development, release and distribution. Additionally while it is not a limiting factoring in our goal to ensure a smooth product release please understand the expectation and engagement of the niche enthusiast community are different than that of the broad enthusiast and or general consumer. This is why the PCDIY site was started to allow for a place to provide an opportunity for engagement and detailing or updates in between official dates.

            With that noted there are many factors in the roll out and release of a product. We consider these carefully and attempt to ensure the best possible execution possible when considering multiple factors including our customers and the community.

            In regards to BestBuy launch this purely has to do with their internal roll out time frame and integration of products into there distribution system. It does not always align with the more flexible integration offered buy other distribution channels. This varies though and is a reality of a multi distribution and etailer / retailer system. There are a number of other factors that ultimately are part of the product distribution process. I will not detail those here but I ask you understand we are aware of our customers and their eagerness at having the most information and best availability.

          • wolf26pack
            wolf26pack 4 months ago .

            @JJ Thank You for replying, like I said I probably don’t grasp the complexities of distribution. You read my comment, heard my feedback and that’s all I needed to hear. Bravo JJ on keeping the community alive and well.

          • JJ
            JJ 4 months ago .

            I am finishing up my video today. We are on target for next week releasing our overview and video. Thanks for your patience.

      • JJ
        JJ 4 months ago .Reply

        Yes I will be doing so. I am currently out of the office at ASUS HQ. I will be putting out more information soon aligning closer to complete channel availability ( this means availability for general etailers and retailers ). Additionally we were waiting to finalize to our initial MP firmware and launch our support site which has no gone live ( for the Best Buy model ). the 87U which is the same unit will be occurring soon.

        http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=11&s=2&m=RT-AC87R&os=&hashedid=n%2fa

        • Shane
          Shane 4 months ago .Reply

          But you’re only speaking in terms of North America, right?

          Tis odd that so may tech co’s seem to think that’s the only region that exists/matters.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      Sorry cannot comment PCDIY and ASUS US press released focus on ASUS North American activities, products etc. I would recommend check with your country and region via their social media channels. I would expect global roll out though within the next month.

  119. Tom Farley
    Tom Farley 4 months ago .Reply

    Well that’s really lame. I thought this blog was the “in the know” blog. Apparently not. Looks like SNB knows more about Asus than this ASUS blog does. JJ, what happened?

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      I am currently out of the office. Outside of general PR releases though we aim to focus on information delivery once able to be vetted internally and ensure we help to meet another layer of information delivery. Ideally this should align with general messaging but may also happen at different times depending on what is being detailed. With the high level of interest in this product PCDIY Is most interest in presenting information to the community of users interested that is useful and relevant outside of general information that has been somewhat previously communicated. Our primary overview article is focus for release sometime in early August. Hopefully it provide some of the information you are looking for. As always any and all feedback is appreciated.

  120. Bud
    Bud 4 months ago .Reply

    Like Wolf26pack, I am beginning to lose interest as well. Too much Hype and not enough real info. Sorry Asus.

  121. cryptochrome (@cryptochrome)

    Some people here need to get a life. Seriously. All the complaining about not enough info and too much hype. One even said this “would cause angst in customers”. Don’t be ridiculous.

    Releasing a new product on a global scale takes times. If you can’t wait, go some place else and buy what is available today. But do us all a favor and stop sitting in front of this blog like a child, pressing Refresh every 5 minutes and complain about things that no one can change. Grow up, get a life.

    • wolf26pack
      wolf26pack 4 months ago .Reply

      @cryptochrome

      I’m not here to get in a forum war with you, but from what I’ve read the average consumer and even the more informed consumer can and has gotten confused about the different model numbers, even though there’s no difference.

      2nd to assume I’ve got no life and am hitting the refresh button every 5 mins is such a deluded statement. I’m an average consumer who wants to spend his hard earned cash on a Great Product. (Which this router is looking to be) I’m not a router enthusiast who plans to purchase the newest router every year like cell phones.

      Finally I know releasing products on a global scale isn’t easy. And I’m not talking about having a global release, just in North America and having retailers and e-tailers releasing at the same time, all they had to do is set a release date where both sides had product availability, and don’t tell me it’s not possible as tons of other companies do it all the time.

      What i had wrote previously was just supposed to be constructive feedback on the way they have chosen to release this product. I’m sure the router will be great and I plan to buy one as soon as they’re available online.

      • CyberTri
        CyberTri 4 months ago .Reply

        I like the idea of a true MU-MIMO router for 3×3 AC but truthfully my setup which is:

        4 N 2.4
        3 N 5.8
        1 G 2.4
        1 AC 5.8 (non MIMO)

        and may be a couple more N 2.4’s

        Call for the AC3200 device more appropriately. I have a 66U with Merlin firmware on it now, and the issue I have is:

        1. Need more range
        2. Streaming simultaneously on multiple devices
        3. External USB painfully slow

        Advice?

        • JJ
          JJ 4 months ago .Reply

          My recommendation for best all around high router is still the 87U easily. With that noted I recommend for complex mixed client environments ( N and AC ) two dedicated routers one for N and another for AC. As for range once you get to a certain point while we are able to extend range generally ( and the 87U has truly impressive range / coverage ) you may be better served by incorporating repeaters into your environment. As for USB this is tough as it depends on your depending on your usage, you may be better served by a dedicated NAS type solution or a low cost PC with and a wired or wireless client connect to the network for shared storage. That being noted the 87U I feel is finally introducing a truly usable high end level of performance for networking. Especially considering its performance holds up with WiFi usage. It is important to note though more testing needs to be done to evaluate file types as router are more sensitive to this than dedicated unit. As to the streaming this could be improved by a number of ways that include QoS which our new 87U introduces in some intelligent way.

  122. CyberTri
    CyberTri 4 months ago .Reply

    USB 3.0 speeds compared to Netgear AC3200.

    Anyone have them please post!

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      You will see information soon but the 87U will offer the best true USB 3.0 performance of any current router. Especially when you consider you use WiFi and the storage at the same time. We are also currently evaluating and testing a new SDK which further improves USB 3.0 performance further. Regardless that the Netgear has this SDK the 87U has a hardware implementation that allows the Quantenna chipset to be independent of the Broadcom chipset offer far more consistent and higher levels of throughput for USB 3.0 performance. This is not to mention the superior power output of the USB implementation offering much better compatibility for USB to SATA based adapters.

      • Shane
        Shane 4 months ago .Reply

        JJ, can you please address my final Qn, I’ve bumped it about 3x now, & it was 1st asked about 1wk ago, long before other posts that you’ve since addressed.

        • JJ
          JJ 4 months ago .Reply

          Can you clarify what question?

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            Sigh, ~7days ago, see here:

            “So, what BestBuy did was done with the (tacit) approval of Asus?

            One of your main 3rd-party fw devs (Merlin) seems pretty sure it wasn’t.

            It def. seems very “out-of-sync”, given all the things you need to wrap-up.”

            Thanks.

          • JJ
            JJ 4 months ago .

            This was already answered in that BestBuy has a different roll out schedule along with other factors compared to other retailers / etailers. With that noted there were some BestBuy locations that pre maturely released or sold the router. At this time though it has been officially released in the BestBuy channel and we have activated our product page and support site for the 87R.

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            I see, so there was indeed a plan to release it slightly earlier with BB, but they broke the rules (accidentally) & released earlier than agreed, about 2wks earlier was it?

            Cheers!

  123. HANK BOHINICK
    HANK BOHINICK 4 months ago .Reply

    Just bought a Asus RT-AC87R AT BEST BUY. 7/27/14 NO PROBLEM!

  124. Henry G
    Henry G 4 months ago .Reply

    JJ,My house is big in a way i would like to use 2 of these routers, one on each end of the house. both wired and used as access points. What would be the best config of both routers so my clients always pick the AP with the strongest signal

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      You can definitely use one other router as large repeater as this is offered within the firmware. As to the location and placement it varies on environment. I would recommend you consider purchasing something like inssider and mapping out the WiFi signal to see where the best placement may be. Keep in mind in many situations higher is better.

  125. Andrew Jackson
    Andrew Jackson 4 months ago .Reply

    I am not able to get DDNS to work after getting a replacement RMA router. I assumed it would expire after 30 days so that I could use the same domain with the replacement router. My customer is very angry now!

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      Thank you for the feedback. I will work with our HQ team to be clearer about how the free DDNS implementation works.

  126. Dave T
    Dave T 4 months ago .Reply

    I bought the R last week. Easy home set up for noob….except for one laptop. Asus support was funny…the guy actual said I was the first call on the unit. And he couldn’t help me….suggesting that the problem was purely a OS issue….and not the router since all other devices could connect. He didn’t offer to trouble shoot.

    So after a few more hours and few reboots to default, I called an IT guy I know. In two minutes he solved the problem and have been off and flying ever since. Two friggin’ minutes.

    Maybe an old tech trick I hadn’t heard before but…..don’t use the same name for your network.

  127. Bud
    Bud 4 months ago .Reply

    Shane, that’s not the way I understand any of this. I doubt Best Buy “broke” the rules (accidentally) & released earlier than agreed. I’m sure all of this had the tacit approval of all parties concerned. That said, I’m still not sure why Asus would release a router (87R) that is not ready for prime time. Obviously all the 87R users will need to update the new FW (87U) when released. This whole roll-out has been goofy from the get go.

    • Shane
      Shane 4 months ago .Reply

      Well that’s what his latest post said in response to my line of questioning, read it, I was just getting confirmation, excerpt:

      “…With that noted there were some BestBuy locations that pre maturely released or sold the router…”

      There was an agreement to release it earlier than anywhere else, but not quite as early as what happened, still waiting on a final response to my last response, please don’t make it any noisier.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      The current 87R has gone through extensive firmware validation and optimization and is currently a market ready product. This does not mean we will not continue to improved functionality, compatibility and performance overtime ( as is the case with most complex hardware that benefits from firmware tuning ). At this time the main optimization and tuning occurring is on the new WRT centric features such as AiProtection ( advanced trend micro based security options ) and new QoS functionality. With that noted we have a long term WRT firmware goal that will be phasing in continued new features and functionality for the remainder of the year. Initial functionality is firstly evaluated from a perspective of range, throughput and stability and core functionality within the firmware. We are currently discussing a transparency policy for firmware validation per each release to show that we extensively check functionality of key aspects of the routers and its usability. Hopefully with the release of an upcoming firmware list it will help to add clarity to the state of the firmware and the functionality and performance of the routers. This is still sometime out but we are working on this as a goal to further support the enthusiast networking community.

      • Shane
        Shane 4 months ago .Reply

        Err, thanks JJ, but I don’t see how that’s related to my last post (which Bud was addressing) AT ALL. Perhaps you got your wires crossed, here is my last (final) post:

        “I see, so there was indeed a plan to release it slightly earlier with BB, but they broke the rules (accidentally) & released earlier than agreed, about 2wks earlier was it?”

        Thanks!

        • JJ
          JJ 4 months ago .Reply

          This has been answered I believe previously, Best Buys distribution timeline are different than the rest of the channel and did have a release scheduled prior to general channel distribution. As noted though there were some locations that did not align with the formal Best Buy release date and it was released early. This occasionally happens in the retail space due to mixes up in inventory and on shelf management and other internal process and procedure missteps. In reference to whole channel avaiblity differences this happens for many many CE products generally availability is not a 100% across the board at all etailers / retailers. It has stages and generally after a certain period of time all participating retailers will have inventory of the product. In this case there is only one retailer who will carry the 87R ( Best Buy ) and all other etailers / retailers will carry the 87U.

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            Thanks, it was def. more than just “one or 2 stores”.

            Seemed like 1 or more of the their main warehouses accidentally let it ship to multiple stores.

            How early did the slip-up occur, can you recall?

          • JJ
            JJ 4 months ago .

            No I do not directly work with our sales and PM team but once we became aware we communicated our internal BBY account mangers to work with BBY to hold stock until the correct date.

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            It was about 2wks I think, 2wks earlier than they were supposed to release it.

            And it went to A LOT of stores, not just one or two.

            Anyway thanks, I’m done with this line of questioning!

  128. CyberTri
    CyberTri 4 months ago .Reply

    Looks like a major review was released with excellent ratings from Cnet.

    http://www.cnet.com/products/asus-ac2400-rt-ac87u-dual-band-wireless-gigabit-router/

    But my question is about the 2.4ghz benchmark where it looks like the AC68U DOMINATES everythiing including the 87U.

    Is that for real or a typo? I have a bunch of 2.4….so range and speed of them is important to me.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      The 87U is based on the same 2.4GHz chipset as the 68U. 2.4GHz performance overall is very close in our internal analysis the 87U will offer slightly better 2.4GHz performance due to superior load balancing and CPU utilization. Depending on how the router is used it can be extended overall but the main performance improvements comes from the 5GHz and storage performance as well as simultaneous 2.4GHz and 5GHz utilization in this respect the 87U will offer much better 2.4GHz performance. Unfortunately due to many sites not do extensive concurrent or complex wireless testing you many not see all of these improvements. That being noted overall even in single client range and through and with only the 2.4GHz connection being used the 87U will offer slightly better performance than the 68U. There is no “firmware improvement needed” in this respect as the 87U also co uses all 2.4GHz optimization already phased in on the 68U.

      • CyberTri
        CyberTri 4 months ago .Reply

        Ok. But does that reply answer this test?

        CNET LABS’S 2.4GHZ WI-FI PERFORMANCE

        Asus RT-AC68U
        225 (close)
        211.4 (100ft away)

        Asus RT-AC87U
        170.7 (close)
        56 (100ft away)

        I just want to understand how the previous device can be so much more powerful in their test. This is not a little different, it is FAR better on the 68U.

        • JJ
          JJ 4 months ago .Reply

          Environment and other factors are the short awnser. I would continue to look at other reviewers to flesh out your sense of what the performance will be like. I can tell you we spent considerable time on this aspect and can assure you overall the performance is comparable or better. Cnet’s environment is extremely noisy and it could have been due to different channels being tested. I do not know if Dong manually sets channels or forces all routers to auto negotiation. Depending on this factor it could have easily impacted performance. Additionally depending on other devices being active and how they may or may not had channel bonding in play could have also affected performance. While understandably you may consider our results biased we do both chamber based testing ( the same testing used by SNB ) as well as full real world testing in multiple locations to evaluate WiFi performance. In this respect we have found the 87U to perform as I have noted in comparison to 68U. More information will be coming soon. I am currently working on our post and hopefully this will provide some additional reference for you in regards to the performance.

  129. Richard
    Richard 4 months ago .Reply

    Thanks wolf26pack. JJ posted above that the product page was up, so I started looking for it but can’t find it. FCC can’t find it either, and apparently FCC regulations require the manual at least to be available online when the product was released in the US on July 20. Just kind of unusual for Asus to make this kind of mistake.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      The support page for the 87R is currently active you can go to support.asus.com. ( and search for 87R ) The formal product page will be activated at the same time as the 87U later this month. We are working on currently uploading a revised manual to the support site. Some changes to the functionality of the WRT required changes to the manual and as such it has not yet been uploaded.

  130. Daniel
    Daniel 4 months ago .Reply

    It seems a very poor product release with the product not launched but is available to buy from some retailers for me i have been put off with this kind of marketing and will not be in the market to buy this product as it seems that Asus dont know which day of the week it is at the moment.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      We have already communicated there are two versions of the unit the 87R and the 87U. The 87R is currently available at BestBuy online or in store and the associated product page for the unit is up. As for the 87U which will be available at all other etailer / retail channels will be released at the end of this month with associated product and support pages going online at that time.

      • Shane
        Shane 4 months ago .Reply

        Poor JJ, having to repeat himself constantly, he’s communicated this (& more) ages ago, & many times before. >.>

      • Daniel
        Daniel 4 months ago .Reply

        But thats not the opinion of many on here that can not find information they request. You have stated you have two versions of this unit but there is no technical difference between them. You still have not given any release dates apart from end of the month or Q3. You have created a void with the lack of information and then you get arsey when the void gets filled with negative comments. This whole saga has been a shinning example on how not to launch a product in my opinion.

        • Shane
          Shane 4 months ago .Reply

          “But thats not the opinion of many on here that can not find information they request.”

          Speak for yourself…

          “You have stated you have two versions of this unit but there is no technical difference between them.”

          Yes, that’s right, it’s common in the industry, an ODM gives a major distributor slightly earlier distribution rights, or in some cases -exclusivity.

          “You still have not given any release dates apart from end of the month or Q3.”

          They’ve not passed the wide-ranging delivery window they set, not once, the “deadline” simply hasn’t been set yet, you’re whining about nothing.

          “You have created a void with the lack of information and then you get arsey when the void gets filled with negative comments.”

          I’m yet to see him get “arsey” once, no idea WTF you’re talking about. When they’re in a position to give an “exact” date they will, simple. But so far they haven’t passed the delivery window they set, you’ve got no leg to stand on.

          “This whole saga has been a shinning example on how not to launch a product in my opinion.”

          It seems you don’t really have much of a clue when it comes to these things.

          • Daniel
            Daniel 4 months ago .

            Well for a product that will be if not one of yhe most expensive domestic home routers on the market I would say yes its all been a shambles would sony or Microsoft or apple or Samsung launch a product in such a fashion? No is the simple answer. This is a high end product and as a consumer I expect better.

          • JJ
            JJ 4 months ago .

            All these vendors have had date changes and much of the confusion is due to the normal speculation that occurs within the enthusiast community. In this respect we have spent time to provide additional information to these users on these products otherwise there is always specification on many aspects of launch time frame availability and more until the product is actually released. That being noted we are working to find more ways to provide even more updating to users on availability. I would also noted some vendors do not pre announce some products specifically because of additional community discussion. This is a difficult decision to make as we can make pre announcements which can causes specification and at early time not always be 100% in alignment with projections or make no announcements and jsut release a product once it available to distribution. Both have there pros and cons. I would like to keep this thread on point for specifics on the router if you have other feedback please send it to PCDIY@ASUS.COM

          • Shane
            Shane 4 months ago .

            You’ve got nothing, you keep claiming “shambles” & “this horrible fashion”, but you’ve got no facts to work with, just a conviction that you’re somehow (irrationally) right.

            The fact remains that they haven’t gone outside the vague window they said they’d deliver in. They’re not yet in a position to set a hard date, that’s fine, that’s their prerogative, so long as it doesn’t sit hugely outside the window they set, they’ve done no wrong. I would be very surprised though if we don’t get that “final date” in a wk or 2, tops.

  131. CyberTri
    CyberTri 4 months ago .Reply

    Can I get a quick reply JJ? Is the Cnet review accurate for 2.4Ghz? Or is the 87U firmware causing issues.

    It doesn’t makes sense how an older model could be so much more powerful for 2.4ghz throughput.

  132. dannyO
    dannyO 4 months ago .Reply

    Why oh why did you put the USB 3.0 port in the FRONT????

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      After careful feedback collection we have a wide range of users wanting the flexibility of connecting a flash drive to the front of the unit. Especially with higher performing flash drive which are larger spacing can be a concern on back ports especially if the ports are stacked as opposed to side by side ( this is why the ports were side by side ) on the 68U compared to the 66U which were stacked. We are looking to further refine the front USB 3.0 implementation with future designs but feel this is a good option especially considering the progressions of USB 3.0 flash solutions and their respective capacities. For users of external hard drives this is minimal an issue as the cable can be connected to the desktop external drive or portable USB 3.0 drive without issue as well.

  133. Dariusz
    Dariusz 4 months ago .Reply

    What about support for LTE modems or even sim card in this model? still not can be used? You are thinking the only one way to got internet is WAN? Too slow in this times especially in Poland, maybe in Japan or US … Sim card slot will be usefull or USB with modems support, isn’t it?

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      There is a lot of complexity to incorporating SIM support. The unit does support 3G/4G dongles and some smartphones depending on how they enable modem support.

  134. Stephen J Margolin
    Stephen J Margolin 4 months ago .Reply

    CNET just published review of the RT-AC87U. Best Buy sells the RT-AC87R. What is the difference between the
    AC87U and the AC87R, if any?

  135. kristy foster
    kristy foster 4 months ago .Reply

    JJ, Using the 2044 firmware we are unable to get a media bridge speed higher then 1300Mbps between two 87R units (that’s the same as the Netgear R7000 tests) as various distances (5 feet , 20ft 100ft etc) we have run an RF Spectrum Analyzier – on 2.4 & 5ghz and there is no other interference in the enviroment

    have you actually implemented the 4×4 MU-Mimo in the latest firmware or have you in the lab been able to get anything higher then 1300 in your tests bridging the units..? – we have seen cases where the R7000 Has connections of 875 whereas the 87R are up to 1170 probably because of the additional antenna…. is the 87R limited to 80mhz channels or will a firmware update allow 160mhz channels (or do we need to buy a future unit to do this)

    Ultimately our plan is to have 3 87R’s media bridge to the main unit on the 5GHZ… a few legacy clients on the 2.4Ghz which we have limited to 20mhz channels – max 20 total connects on 5ghz

    • JJ
      JJ 4 months ago .Reply

      1. MU-MIMO is hardware ready but not yet enabled in firmware. It will be coming a future date once validation and tuning for it is complete. In addition it will align with MU-MIMO ready devices.

      2. Throughput of course varies based on client, environment and distance. Overall if you are reaching speeds in excess of 800mbps ( peak ) you are seeing outstanding real world performance from the 87U. Anything greater than this would generally be limited to close proximity. Additionally are you reporting link rate or actual measured numbers?

      3. Currently the unit is limited to a max 80Mhz operation

  136. Richard
    Richard 4 months ago .Reply

    Kristy, Quantenna hasn’t enable the MU-MIMO yet. They are working on optimizing the 5 Ghz firmware with additional features by late August, in conjunction with the release of the EAC87U Bridge. This is per Gary Key, Asus Technical Marketing.

    • JJ
      JJ 3 months ago .Reply

      The 87U will offer superior range, throughput and much better simultaneous USB 3.0 storage performance. Additionally the firmware offers more functionality. The Nighthawk main benefit comes from mix network utilization with many devices such as many 5GH N and many 5GHz AC based clients. ASUS will be releasing a product featuring the same design ( Tri Band ) but our current focus is on the 87U.

  137. Shark
    Shark 3 months ago .Reply

    JJ, I want to thank you for being patient during this entire release process. I have been following this site for many months and am very excited that it is finally for sale. I have a few questions:

    1) Do you have any recommendations as to how to set up this router for those of us who have MoCa modem routers from Verizon? Should I turn off the ActionTec completely and run 2 networks off the RT? I have a 50/50 connection with the ActionTec MI424WR Rev I with a not so complex environment (random G device, 2 AC devices, the rest N). From what I understand, I need to reassign an address to this router.

    2) Would you recommend two separate SSIDs for the 2.4GhZ for the G/Ns and 5GhZ just for the AC clients?

    3) Is it possible for me to have a VPN with this router? Would this alleviate any requirement to pay a separate service for VPN capability on my network?

    I apologize for the slightly noobish questions – I am very new at Wifi setups.

  138. Chris
    Chris 3 months ago .Reply

    You can preorder on Newegg now FYI.

  139. Bud
    Bud 3 months ago .Reply

    Newegg Release Date: 08/26/2014. Price $279. Ouch!

    • bob
      bob 3 months ago .Reply

      you can buy it now at best buy

  140. tradax
    tradax 3 months ago .Reply

    What is the power consumption idle, average when used and under maximum load? I Always find it strange that this isn’t reviewed while it’s a device that is always on.

    • JJ
      JJ 3 months ago .Reply

      Most users will never turn off / power down their routers due to the need of consistent connectivity for devices throughout their home or business. If you look at the overview we did on the router we go into power consumption details.

  141. Jo
    Jo 3 months ago .Reply

    Hi All,

    Anyone here could give me the pre-order links. Would appreciate if could ship to Canada.

    Thank you!

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  142. Bud
    Bud 3 months ago .Reply

    JJ, my Buffalo whr-hp-g54 router is flashed with DD-WRT. I can do some amazing things with it like VLAN. However, this router is getting long in the tooth. Will the ASUS 87U have all the same features like DD-WRT, specifically BSSID support and VLAN?
    Thanks

    • Andrew Jackson
      Andrew Jackson 3 months ago .Reply

      JJ, my customer’s RT-AC87R does not see the second modem on the secondary WAN: tech support has been very vague about a solution. I need some real help! My customer will defect soon and I will lose all credibility with her. She only has four days left before the return period expires.

      • JJ
        JJ 3 months ago .Reply

        Hello Andrew. I have been out of the office sorry for the delay. This is a pretty specific problem without more information it is difficult to debug. In my experience some modem need to be specifically set for a different modem of operation to correctly initialize on a secondary LAN. If you can provide more specifics I can feedback to my HQ team to look into it but depending on the configuration it may require sometime for debugging. On a side note you have updated the firmware on the 87R and ensure you have set the secondary WAN settings on the router for your ISP and modem type?

    • JJ
      JJ 3 months ago .Reply

      We are consistently incorporating more and more functionality into our firmware. If you want DD WRT we offer a wide range of newer routers that support DD WRT along with our own ASUS WRT firmware. BSSID and VLAN is something we are looking into.

  143. ac
    ac 3 months ago .Reply

    Are you looking into this issue just reported in news? Apparently the Broadcom chipset used in many of the popular devices (most RT- included) may have this issue. I am not certain if this “1 second to hack into the router” trick is possible with the default WPS configuration or not though.

    http://www.slideshare.net/0xcite/offline-bruteforce-attack-on-wii-protected-setup

  144. Mathew Teague
    Mathew Teague 3 months ago .Reply

    Hi JJ when will the AC87U be released for the UK as I can’t wait for this =)

    • JJ
      JJ 2 months ago .Reply

      Sorry I handle specifics for the US and North America. I would expect availability to occur very shortly. I would reach out to our social media channels in the UK.

  145. Kurosaki Reehaan
    Kurosaki Reehaan 2 months ago .Reply

    Hii. I just want to know if this has been released or not?

    • JJ
      JJ 2 months ago .Reply

      Yes the 87U has been released in the US and North America.

  146. TheSandmaN
    TheSandmaN 2 months ago .Reply

    Is there going to be a PCE-AC87 or equivalent PCI-E adapter like the PCEAC68? Really want to get the most out of this router with my main gaming PC.

    • JJ
      JJ 2 months ago .Reply

      At this time no there is no reference design for a 4×4 client adapter. We had to develop the one used in PCE AC68. Additionally overall the PCE-AC68 pretty pushes throughput to just about the limits of what current WiFi can offer. The upcoming EA-87 though will be a “large” possible client and will be 4×4 with MU-MIMO ready support. Stay tuned for more information as we approach its release.

  147. thesandman6969
    thesandman6969 2 months ago .Reply

    So I take it the EA-87 is the next iteration of the EA-N66?

    • JJ
      JJ 2 months ago .Reply

      Not directly we will be looking at producing a similar solution but smaller. Overall the EA-87 is pretty close in functionality but is more like a media bridge due to the integrated switch offering more ports.

  148. Sharky
    Sharky 2 months ago .Reply

    @JJ – if 2 RT-AC87U were used together, one being in Bridge mode/wifi extender, are there any restrictions on the Bridge in functionality? Ex: – If a USB drive is connected to the Bridge unit, and mainly accessed (DLNA) by users connected to that wifi point, will there be any increased traffic between the two AC87’s?

    • Sharky
      Sharky 2 months ago .Reply

      Where can I call, who can I email with some pre-sale questions?

      • JJ
        JJ 2 months ago .Reply

        What questions are you wondering about? We do not have a line for pre sale questions. I may be able to provide clarification or insight. You can email me if you want at PCDIY@ASUS.COM

    • JJ
      JJ 2 months ago .Reply

      Can you clarify your question?

  149. Hans
    Hans 1 month ago .Reply

    Got this router this weekend, performance is ok but transfer of large files (over 2 Gb) via wifi to NAS breaks down and stops. Installed latest Asus fw 3.0.0.4.376_2769 (Merlin is older version, same problem btw) which supposedly fixed this issue but to no avail. Previous setup with AC-RT68U as router and the RT66 as media bridge worked flawlessly, could transfer files of 50 Gb without pain overnight. Now with the RT68 it’s crappy. Any chance we see new fw soon from Asus to fix this?

    • JJ
      JJ 1 month ago .Reply

      Thanks for the feedback issues like this can be difficult to debug and find the root cause. I use the 68 along with the 87U daily in the office for intranet based transfers from connected systems as well as to a NAS connected and do not have the issue. If possible I would go back and try to see if you can confirm the bug / issue with different ( older ) firmware as opposed to the Merlin and latest build you tried.

  150. Hans
    Hans 1 month ago .Reply

    Sorry …RT68 one but last sentence should read RT87 of course …

  151. MJ
    MJ 1 month ago .Reply

    Can anyone give some date when MU-MIMO in this router is planed to be released ?
    I wounder about buying this router but I do not want to buy it considering features it ‘might have’ in future.

    • JJ
      JJ 4 weeks ago .Reply

      The firmware is currently under testing and validation. Once a formal release time frame is finalized and internal testing and validation is complete an update will be posted on the site as well in the primary overview article which details this information.

    • dallas
      dallas 4 weeks ago .Reply

      jj and coupons for the asus rt87

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